thanks tref..

i just wanna thank tref for this link, not sure why he hasn't posted it on his blog but the print out version was a great read, have a look at the following post called what would jesus construct?, i agree with so much here and would pick up on one of the issues which is a real sticking point with me, that of the idea that the teacher is the only voice which can be heard and often belongs to someone who doesn't live or has ever experienced life in the 'real world', their stories and opinions can be clouded and whilst teaching is a God given gift, some don't even posses that gift yet have the ear of a whole church...this coupled by the fact that many of our 'church' models don't fit with our busy work and home lives it does come down to our own personal relationship with God and the need to bind ourselves daily to Him to seek His ways of not only speaking to us but also speaking through us.